Top Stories /asmagazine/ en 'Your love will be your legacy' /asmagazine/2025/07/23/your-love-will-be-your-legacy <span>'Your love will be your legacy'</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-07-23T07:30:00-06:00" title="Wednesday, July 23, 2025 - 07:30">Wed, 07/23/2025 - 07:30</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-07/Gio%20Ruffolo%20and%20dad%20thumbnail.jpg?h=9fb6362d&amp;itok=I8Rik3FL" width="1200" height="800" alt="John and Giovanna Ruffolo holding illuminated balloons"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/352" hreflang="en">Integrative Physiology</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/144" hreflang="en">Psychology and Neuroscience</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1102" hreflang="en">Undergraduate Students</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/456" hreflang="en">cancer</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1053" hreflang="en">community</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/sarah-kuta">Sarah Kuta</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>Losing her father to pancreatic cancer inspired CU 51´ŤĂ˝ undergraduate Giovanna Ruffolo to raise money for cancer research and pursue a career in medicine</em></p><hr><p><span lang="EN">Giovanna Ruffolo was a senior in high school when her dad died of pancreatic cancer.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">While other students were looking forward to prom and graduation, Ruffolo was navigating a web of tangled emotions—shock, disbelief, sadness, anger, uncertainty.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“Losing a parent is probably the most intense pain someone can feel in their entire life,” she says. “It’s a terrible, terrible pain.”</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-07/Gio%20Ruffolo%20and%20family.jpg?itok=VzYChEgq" width="1500" height="1196" alt="Leo, Joey and Giovanna Ruffolo with their mother"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Giovanna Ruffolo (second from right) with her brothers Leo (left, a 2024 CU 51´ŤĂ˝ graduate) and Joey (second from left, a CU Denver student) and their mom, Rosanna. (Photo: Giovanna Ruffolo)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">Mostly, though, she just felt numb. Heading off to college so soon after her father’s death was the last thing she wanted to do. But she knew education was important to her dad, so she pushed through the pain and enrolled at CU 51´ŤĂ˝.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Now a senior studying integrative physiology and psychology, Ruffolo is preparing for a career in medicine so that, someday, she can help support families just like hers. She hopes to work in pediatric oncology, providing compassionate care to children who are fighting cancer.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">As a Buff, Ruffolo is also honoring her father’s legacy by raising money and awareness for cancer prevention research, an initiative she started just after her father got his diagnosis.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“I just want people to know they have a support system and a network that hates cancer as much as they do—that they’re not alone,” she says.</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Helping others</strong></span></p><p><span lang="EN">Life was rolling along for the Ruffolo family when they got the news that would change their lives forever. In 2017, their beloved patriarch, </span><a href="https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/john-ruffolo-obituary?id=7635215" rel="nofollow"><span lang="EN">John Ruffolo</span></a><span lang="EN">, was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, a disease that is often fatal.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“It hit us like a bus,” says Ruffolo.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Pancreatic cancer is the third-leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the United States, according to the National Institutes of Health. Between 2015 and 2021, the five-year survival rate was just </span><a href="https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/pancreas.html" rel="nofollow"><span lang="EN">13.3 percent</span></a><span lang="EN">—much lower than other types of cancer. In 2025, the American Cancer Society </span><a href="https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/pancreatic-cancer/about/key-statistics.html" rel="nofollow"><span lang="EN">estimates</span></a><span lang="EN"> 67,440 people will be diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and 51,980 people will die from the disease.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“It’s the cancer that really gives cancer its bad name,” Ruffolo says.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-07/Giovanna%20Ruffolo%20purple%20event.jpg?itok=FFIW31lE" width="1500" height="668" alt="High school students in group photo wearing purple shirts"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span lang="EN">Prospect Ridge Academy High School Students participate in a cancer fundraiser organized by Giovanna Ruffolo in 2019. (Photo: Giovanna Ruffolo)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">Ruffolo was just 14 at the time, but she felt compelled to take action. As a sophomore at Prospect Ridge Academy High School</span><em><span lang="EN">,&nbsp;</span></em><span lang="EN">she created TeamRuffolo, a student-led initiative to raise money and awareness for cancer research.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">In November 2018, her school hosted a “Purple Out”—a one-day event in which students were encouraged to wear purple to show their support for the cancer community and donate whatever they could toward prevention research. Students, teachers and administrators raised more than $1,000 for the American Cancer Society that day, and Ruffolo went home feeling inspired and hopeful.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">She organized similar fundraisers at her high school in 2019 and 2020 (though the initiative had to go virtual because of the COVID-19 pandemic).</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“It was such a wonderful feeling,” she says. “A lot of these people didn’t even know my dad, but&nbsp; they were still so supportive. Seeing people come together not only for him, but just to say, ‘You’re not alone,’ was tremendous for all of us.”</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Balancing act</strong></span></p><p><span lang="EN">Meanwhile, despite undergoing various treatments and surgeries, her father’s cancer continued to progress. Four years after his diagnosis, he succumbed to the disease in January 2021 at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Center.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Ruffolo was utterly devastated, but she knew she had to finish high school and get a college degree for her dad. And, wherever she ended up next, she wanted to continue her awareness-raising and fundraising events to support other cancer patients and their families.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-07/Giovanna%20Ruffolo%20CU%2051´ŤĂ˝%20runners.JPG?itok=l_ykhxGX" width="1500" height="1185" alt="CU 51´ŤĂ˝ students running in a 5K to raise money for cancer"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">CU 51´ŤĂ˝ participants run in the Stronger Together Annual 5K at CU in 2024, the event's most successful year. (Photo: Giovanna Ruffolo)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">At CU 51´ŤĂ˝, Ruffolo has thrown herself into her studies, with an ultimate goal of working in the medical field. From her father’s experience, Ruffolo learned first-hand that cancer affects more than just the body—it also influences a patient’s mind, spirit and emotions. With that in mind, she’s majoring in integrative physiology and psychology to create her own pre-health pathway.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“My father had trouble grasping being diagnosed with a terminal disease, as anyone rightfully would,” she says. “I want to understand people’s behaviors and thoughts better, so that when someone is going through a hardship, I can better support them.”</span></p><p><span lang="EN">To further build her skill set, Ruffolo also completed CU’s emergency medical technician (EMT) program, an online, non-credit specialization that prepares students for national registry testing. She has also worked as a research assistant at CU 51´ŤĂ˝ and Children's Hospital Colorado.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">In addition, Ruffolo has taken on a leadership role with the CU 51´ŤĂ˝ chapter of the American Medical Student Association, spending three years on the executive board before being elected president for the 2025-26 school year. Through the student group, Ruffolo has carried on her TeamRuffolo efforts—now called Stronger Together—by organizing 5-kilometer run/walk events to raise money for the American Cancer Society.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">She is also a journey leader with New Student &amp; Family Programs, where she helps incoming freshmen navigate the CU 51´ŤĂ˝ experience. Balancing her studies with her extracurricular activities—while also supporting her family and honoring her father’s legacy—has been challenging. But, for Ruffolo, it all comes back to staying true to herself.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“Pretty much my tippy-top value is helping others,” she says.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">In class, Ruffolo has never been afraid to ask questions and speak up—even when that means talking about her father’s death in a large lecture hall full of hundreds of students. </span><a href="/psych-neuro/jennifer-stratford" rel="nofollow"><span lang="EN">Jennifer Stratford</span></a><span lang="EN">, a CU 51´ŤĂ˝ teaching associate professor of psychology and neuroscience, says Ruffolo’s willingness to be vulnerable has opened the door for other students to share their experiences.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-07/John%20Ruffolo.JPG?itok=n3zTTbKf" width="1500" height="1183" alt="Portrait of John Ruffolo"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">John Ruffolo died from pancreatic cancer in 2021. (Photo: Giovanna Ruffolo)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">“She just kind of became an ambassador and a face for students who have lost parents,” says Stratford. “I’ve had a lot of feedback from students about how much they appreciated her bravery and how much they identified with some of the struggles she’d been through. It’s a once-in-a-decade or once-in-a-lifetime experience to see a single student have an impact on so many of her classmates.”</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>‘Your love will be your legacy’</strong></span></p><p><span lang="EN">Since high school, Ruffolo estimates she’s helped raise more than $20,000 for the American Cancer Society. And she’s not done yet. She hopes the CU 51´ŤĂ˝ AMSA chapter will continue organizing the 5K run/walk fundraisers, and that she’ll be able to host similar events during the next phase of her educational journey.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">For now, Ruffolo is focused on finishing up her studies so she can graduate in the spring of 2026. From there, she hopes to continue her education in the medical field, likely as a doctor or physician assistant specializing in pediatric oncology.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“I really want to serve that specific community,” she says. “You’re treating little people who have lots of emotions and a little body. They get very scared easily. You really have to be empathetic and treat them and their families with kindness. I love the idea of sitting down with people, holding their hands, talking to them—not just giving them a death sentence, walking out the door and saying, ‘Best of luck.’”</span></p><p><span lang="EN">That approach stems directly from her father’s experiences. As he neared the end of his life, Ruffolo remembers him breaking down and talking about how scared he was. She hopes to be the kind of practitioner who will help people like her dad move forward through their pain and fear, while also treating their underlying illness.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">“Your love will be your legacy,” she says. “In a world where there’s no cure for cancer, investing your time in others is the only way you can live forever. And loving other people—giving them kindness and empathy—is one of the best ways to help fight any disease.”</span></p><hr><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>Losing her father to pancreatic cancer inspired CU 51´ŤĂ˝ undergraduate Giovanna Ruffolo to raise money for cancer research and pursue a career in medicine.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-07/Gio%20Ruffolo%20and%20dad%20cropped.jpg?itok=EiVcwaQ9" width="1500" height="528" alt="John and Giovanna Ruffolo holding illuminated balloons"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top image: Giovanna Ruffolo (right) and her late father, John, representing Colorado cancer patients and survivors at Mile High Stadium at an event sponsored by the American Cancer Society in 2019. (Photo: Giovanna Ruffolo)</div> Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:30:00 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6181 at /asmagazine What’s more hardcore than history? /asmagazine/2025/06/18/whats-more-hardcore-history <span>What’s more hardcore than history? </span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-06-18T16:24:13-06:00" title="Wednesday, June 18, 2025 - 16:24">Wed, 06/18/2025 - 16:24</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-06/Dan%20Carlin%20bw.jpg?h=41bf6bc3&amp;itok=n-2lynzf" width="1200" height="800" alt="Portrait of Dan Carlin"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/178" hreflang="en">History</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1233" hreflang="en">The Ampersand</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1222" hreflang="en">podcast</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1235" hreflang="en">popular culture</a> </div> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>CU 51´ŤĂ˝ alumnus Dan Carlin brings a love of history and a punk sensibility to a new season of </em>The Ampersand<em> as he discusses his hit podcast,&nbsp;</em>Hardcore History</p><hr><p><a class="ucb-link-button ucb-link-button-gold ucb-link-button-default ucb-link-button-regular" href="https://theampersand.podbean.com/e/the-andertones-dan-carlin-on-punk-narrative-storytelling-and-exploring-the-past/" rel="nofollow"><span class="ucb-link-button-contents"><strong>&nbsp;</strong><i class="fa-solid fa-star">&nbsp;</i><strong>&nbsp;Listen to The Ampersand</strong></span></a></p><p>There are a lot of places to experience punk: in the dim, smoky basement of Club 88 in Los Angeles in 1983, listening to a then-little-known band called NOFX, but also on the ancient battlefields of Britannia, where Briton warriors drew their swords against the invading Romans.</p><p>In the first scenario, Dan Carlin was actually there wearing his signature black T-shirt and Orioles cap. The battlefield? He visits it in his vivid imagination (still in a black T-shirt and ball cap)—drinking in the details and drawing a sensory-rich narrative from historical texts and records.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Dan%20Carlin%20bw.jpg?itok=MopZK5mR" width="1500" height="1244" alt="Portrait of Dan Carlin"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">CU 51´ŤĂ˝ history graduate Dan Carlin brings a punk sensibility to his wildly popular podcast, <em>Hardcore History</em>.</p> </span> </div></div><p>Carlin, a University of Colorado 51´ŤĂ˝ history graduate, is something of a journalist of the past—a punk rock kid who became a punk rock adult who brings that counterculture ethos to <a href="https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/" rel="nofollow"><em>Hardcore History</em></a>, among the most popular podcasts in the United States with millions of downloads per episode.</p><p>He&nbsp;<a href="https://theampersand.podbean.com/e/studying-the-best-of-humanity-even-our-darkest-parts/" rel="nofollow">recently joined</a>&nbsp;host&nbsp;<a href="/artsandsciences/erika-randall" rel="nofollow">Erika Randall</a>, CU 51´ŤĂ˝ interim dean of undergraduate education and professor of dance, to kick off a new season of&nbsp;<a href="https://theampersand.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">"The Ampersand,”</a>&nbsp;the College of Arts and Sciences podcast. Randall joins guests in exploring stories about “<em>ANDing”</em>&nbsp;as a “full sensory verb” that describes experience and possibility.</p><p>Their conversation covered everything from creativity to punk rock to a dog named Mrs. Brown.</p><p><strong>DAN CARLIN</strong>: So, what makes the past interesting is not so much that it's just, oh, here's a wild story from the past. It's that even though—what did Shakespeare say? Right, "All the world's a stage, and all the people merely players"—the people in the story are people just like we are.</p><p>And so, the ability to touch base with something that is otherwise impossible for us to relate to, right, the past is a foreign country, as the saying goes. They do things differently there. Trying to imagine living in a society where they perform human sacrifice, for example, is not possible for us. But you can start to realize that the people in the story are the same as we were.</p><p>And if you took a human infant out of the incubator at your local hospital, put them in a time machine, sent them back in the past to a time where people enjoyed visiting public executions, and that child was raised in that culture, they, too, would enjoy going to public executions. So, genetically speaking, we're the same people. And I think that's the end toward understanding the past. I mean, if people ever end up on Mars someday, we might not be able to imagine what it's like to be on Mars. But we can imagine what it's like to be people, even on Mars.</p><p><strong>ERIKA RANDALL</strong>: I teach dance history, and it really, to me, is about the people and then the context, right, and the people who are next to the people, and how going to see a World's Fair was akin to having access to the world wide web because you suddenly got to be in a moment in time. In the 1900s, all these people came together, and then the forum changed.</p><p>So, to say that with just dates and facts but not to go, “Imagine that in this moment Loie Fuller is there with Marie Curie at the same event, running into each other. And look at what that did to dance. Look how technology and art, creativity and science came together because of that confluence of human people at an event.”</p><p>And that helps to get students excited versus, “This is the kind of piece that was made at this time on this date,” but to really get into the storytelling. And then the letters, the archives, the archival material that actually brings those humans to life, I find, oh, I want students to get as excited about that as I do. What do you think we do in this generation of people who are learning with so much information that they maybe don't read the bylines perhaps the way you and I did or dive into the works cited to get into the detail of, like, what can make me feel here?</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: There's a lot to unpack in that question because I think it touches upon a lot of things that I think about but don't have any answers for. I think this is self-evident and obvious, but we're involved in a mass giant human experiment right now. And anybody who's raising kids, even my kids are late teens, early 20s, so, I mean, but they're not really kids anymore.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Dan%20Carlin%20book%20cover.jpg?itok=_gEF1pIi" width="1500" height="2249" alt="book cover for Dan Carlin's &quot;The End Is Always Near&quot;"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Dan Carlin's "The End Is Always Near" explores <span>some of the apocalyptic moments from the past as a way to frame the challenges of the future.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>But this is all part of this generation, as I tell my oldest, that cropped up literally right after she was born. I mean, once the iPhone comes around, and we're walking around with—what did Elon Musk say? We're all cyborgs now, right? Once we enter that world, we firmly leave the analog world behind.</p><p>And what I mean by that is I try to explain to people that the entire history of humanity up until about the 21st century, maybe the very, very end of the 20th, that's an analog world, right? So, if you grew up, as I did, in a pre-computer world, you lived in the same world that the people in ancient Assyria lived in, right? I mean, they came home when the metaphorical streetlights went on, just like we did, right? No way to call mom, no tracking.</p><p>But the point is so, all of a sudden, now we enter into a world where we don't know how this plays out because there hasn't been enough time. What's more, unlike ancient times, where the pace of change was slow, so that even if there was some revolutionary new discovery, right, a brand new plow is invented that's going to change the entire world, you would probably have several hundred years to incorporate that new technology and see what that was going to do to society. Even movable print, which shook up the whole world, is nothing compared to what we have now because what we have now, if you said nothing's really going to change for another 50 years, then we could sit there and try to incorporate what's happened, right?</p><p>So, there's the ability to absorb and sort of make it a part of. In other words, society redirects around the inventions so that it then becomes the society plus those inventions. But what I think we're all aware of now is that the pace of change is so quick that by the time we would incorporate, oh, my gosh, what is the world plus Facebook like…</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: It's already moved on.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: We're off of Facebook. Yes! And so, the ability to ever get to the absorption phase is gone. What that does for society is a big unknown.</p><p>So, the question is often brought up about things like the ability to think deeply or to contemplate. Or, I mean, do people get bored without their cell phone for two minutes? Does that rob us of the ability that ancient thinkers used to have to just sit out in the open air amongst the trees and think? Or as one person pointed out—and I think there's real benefit to this, too—the counterreaction to boredom, right, what boredom makes us do.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: Yes.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: To not be bored ends up being…</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: It sparks creativity. It actually lights us up.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: Yes. The games you have to invent as a kid because there is no easy access to something else, right?</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: Yeah.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: I don't know what that means for society. I tell my kids all the time that if you happen to be somebody who bucks that trend, it reminds you of the line, "In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king," right? I mean, if you can do math and nobody can do math anymore, that's an advantage, right? So, I always try to turn it into, well, if you're one of the few who reads, that's going to help you.</p><p>I think doing the show when you're doing five hours of history podcasting sometimes, and that there's an audience for that, helps you go, oh, well, good. There's still that out there. But when you have more than a billion people as your potential audience, getting a few million here or there that are interested in your little niche thing is not necessarily reflective of broad societal trends.</p><p>So, I don't know that our audience is representative, and I'm not sure I can draw many conclusions from that.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: But it doesn't make you want to go get those other billion. It makes you—like, you don't want to have to necessarily adapt your path towards those folks who want the quick flip and quick hit.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Hardcore%20History%20logo.jpg?itok=-AKZJU47" width="1500" height="1500" alt="Logo for Dan Carlin's podcast Hardcore History"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Dan Carlin has hosted <em>Hardcore History</em> since 2006.</p> </span> </div></div><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: I wouldn't do that. No, I wouldn't do that for several reasons. One, there's people who have that lane—lots of people who have that. It’s an easier lane, to be honest. But also, because it's the same thing with why I'm following the Baltimore Orioles when I live in Los Angeles, and I've never been to Baltimore. I mean, this is—I was a punk rock person. I'm a Generation X person.</p><p>There's a whole bunch of things in my biography where you just go, oh, this guy is going to do it differently. My wife would say, you just have to be different, don't you? And, yeah, I think that's what it is. So, I don't want those other people. I kind of take pride that the audience invented a name for themselves. They call themselves the "hardcorps," C-O-R-P-S.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: Oh, I love that.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: This is how I always was as a kid, too. It's not that I'm different and bad. I'm different, and I'm going to take pride in that. And I want my several million, instead of the billions, because it's us, right? It's our own private "hardcorps" club.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: In the basement.</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: We're doing our own thing. You can go enjoy your 30-second TikTok pieces of entertainment.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: I can't imagine you in that ball cap and black T-shirt as a punk rock guy. Like, who were you listening to? Were you pierced? What are we talking about? Did the visual change, or were you a contrarian there, too, when you rolled up with your Orioles cap into the basement with people with mohawks?</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: Well—and I'm speaking to people who were there now in your audience who remember—punk is a caricature of what it was then. It's hard to describe what it was like in '79 or '80 or '81.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: In L.A., right?</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: Yeah. I mean, listen, I remember John Doe, who was the lead singer of X. He had a great line. He said punk was wearing black jeans and having a normal haircut—what we would call a normal haircut today.</p><p>If you had short hair in 1978, people would yell out the car. You know, he said people would yell out the car and yell Devo at you because that was contrary. He said, “All I had was a normal American haircut, but that was a statement in 1978.”</p><p>So, we looked more normal. A lot of times, we had a lot of hair colors. But with me, if you saw me at CU, I didn't look… I had long hair at CU.</p><p><strong>RANDALL</strong>: Were you punk? Were you punk at CU?</p><p><strong>CARLIN</strong>: I was always punk.</p><p><em>Click the button below to hear the rest of the conversation.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a class="ucb-link-button ucb-link-button-gold ucb-link-button-default ucb-link-button-regular" href="https://theampersand.podbean.com/e/the-andertones-dan-carlin-on-punk-narrative-storytelling-and-exploring-the-past/" rel="nofollow"><span class="ucb-link-button-contents"><i class="fa-solid fa-star">&nbsp;</i><strong>&nbsp;Listen to The Ampersand</strong></span></a></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about history? </em><a href="/history/giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>CU 51´ŤĂ˝ alumnus Dan Carlin brings a love of history and a punk sensibility to a new season of The Ampersand as he discusses his hit podcast, Hardcore History.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Dan%20Carlin%20header.jpg?itok=4D2PUcPB" width="1500" height="373" alt="historical cover images from Dan Carlin's podcast"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Wed, 18 Jun 2025 22:24:13 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6159 at /asmagazine An apple a day? It’s the 51´ŤĂ˝ way /asmagazine/2025/05/08/apple-day-its-boulder-way <span>An apple a day? It’s the 51´ŤĂ˝ way</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-05-08T11:18:27-06:00" title="Thursday, May 8, 2025 - 11:18">Thu, 05/08/2025 - 11:18</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20watering%20sm.jpg?h=06ac0d8c&amp;itok=TuRkhnui" width="1200" height="800" alt="Mia Williams waters newly planted apple tree"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/256" hreflang="en">Ecology and Evolutionary Biology</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1063" hreflang="en">Sustainability</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1053" hreflang="en">community</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/rachel-sauer">Rachel Sauer</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>Newly planted apple orchard on CU 51´ŤĂ˝ campus is a nexus of university and community partnerships and will be a living classroom for students and educators</em></p><hr><p>For now, they are twiggy little things, all spindly adolescent limbs that nevertheless hint at future harvests. Saturday morning, one even wore a scattering of creamy white blossoms—flowers that, in years to come, once roots have gained hold and branches have stretched up and out, will grow into apples.</p><p>Is there anything more hopeful than planting a tree? Yes, planting a whole orchard of them.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="field_media_oembed_video"><iframe src="/asmagazine/media/oembed?url=https%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0HX8kb2Tdbk&amp;max_width=516&amp;max_height=350&amp;hash=hVjlt3l1shf-Ell_YOR1Iyj_UQ_Lynu0n5EbosTQWdw" width="516" height="290" class="media-oembed-content" loading="eager" title="Apple orchard planted on CU 51´ŤĂ˝ Campus"></iframe> </div> </div></div><p>On Saturday, years of planning, research and partnership-building bore fruit on an L-shaped plot in front of the University of Colorado 51´ŤĂ˝ 30<span>th</span> Street greenhouse, where more than two-dozen volunteers planted 30 apple trees in what had previously been a scrubby patch of turf.</p><p>Funded by a <a href="/ecenter/2024/09/18/buffs-backyard-orchard-breaks-ground" rel="nofollow">$90,000 Sustainable CU grant,</a> the apple orchard will not only be a classroom and a living lab, but a nexus for community, a carbon sink and a vibrant example that sustainability can be delicious.</p><p>“It’s so exciting to see this happening,” says Amy Dunbar-Wallis, who this semester completed her PhD in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology and collaborated with CU 51´ŤĂ˝ faculty and students and community partners to bring the idea of the first orchard on CU 51´ŤĂ˝ campus to fruition.</p><p>“It represents how so many people on campus, so many people in the community, have come together to plant this orchard that will be a place to learn and a place to preserve a really neat part of 51´ŤĂ˝â€™s history.”</p><p><strong>In search of old apple trees</strong></p><p>The new apple orchard grew from the <a href="https://appletreeproject.org/" rel="nofollow">51´ŤĂ˝ Apple Tree Project</a>, an initiative that began almost 15 years ago with a simple observation: There seemed to be a lot of old apple trees in 51´ŤĂ˝.</p><p><a href="/ebio/katharine-suding" rel="nofollow">Katharine Suding</a>, a professor of distinction in the <a href="/ebio/" rel="nofollow">Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology</a>, had recently moved to the area, “and I was really surprised to see so many old apple trees everywhere,” she recalled during the <a href="https://appletreeproject.org/latest-news-blog/blog-post-template-bthm8" rel="nofollow">2022 Apple Symposium</a>. “I realized I had no idea about the histories and particularly the history of apples, so looking into it a little more, it was clear there are trees here that are remnants of past histories starting in the turn of (20<span>th</span>) century.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20planning%20sm.jpg?itok=riSUaN-p" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Amy Dunbar-Wallis and Tiffany Willis in apple orchard plot"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Amy Dunbar-Wallis (left) and Tiffany Willis (right, EBio'22) consult a chart designating where each tree would be planted in the new apple orchard in front of the 30th Street greenhouse Saturday morning. Willis, who lives in 51´ŤĂ˝, took EBIO 1250 online during Covid lockdowns and was a lab assistant for the class in 2021.</p> </span> </div></div><p>“There are apple trees in Colorado and in 51´ŤĂ˝ that are remnants from old orchards that still exist. There are also remnants of trees that were planted when people came and built ranches or had farms here, and often they were bringing along apple trees from where they came from, whether it was Germany, whether it was the Midwest, whether it was Scandinavia.”</p><p>In fall 2017, the 51´ŤĂ˝ Apple Tree Project (BATP) sprouted, combining historical sleuthing with cutting-edge genetic testing and grafting to not only locate and catalog 51´ŤĂ˝â€™s historic apple trees, but also to revive its legacy of apple growing. In the ongoing project, researchers gather data on the age and health of the trees, as well as the type and flavor of the apples, and the genetic diversity that the trees offer to future populations.</p><p>Suding and BATP co-principal investigator <a href="/ebio/lisa-corwin" rel="nofollow">Lisa Corwin</a>, an associate professor of ecology and evolutionary biology, have worked with undergraduate and graduate students not only to gather data, but also to develop the EBIO 1250 course, during which students conduct research on 51´ŤĂ˝â€™s apple trees; <a href="/cumuseum/boulder-apple-tree-project" rel="nofollow">curricula and materials</a> in partnership with the CU Museum of Natural History; a <a href="https://appletreeproject.org/database" rel="nofollow">database</a> and <a href="https://appletreeproject.org/batpcollect-app" rel="nofollow">app</a> in collaboration with computer science students; <a href="https://appletreeproject.org/map" rel="nofollow">an interactive map</a> of apple trees that have been tagged and studied; and the A Power of Place Learning Experience and Research Network (APPLE R Net), a multi-institution research network directed by Corwin that introduces students to field research by involving them in a project examining apple trees across the Rocky Mountain region.</p><p>BATP also is part of the&nbsp;<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhistoricfruit.org%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CRachel.Sauer%40colorado.edu%7Cc7749ba22c9d410a6a8c08dd84329f79%7C3ded8b1b070d462982e4c0b019f46057%7C1%7C0%7C638812075134976714%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=h5eGYsFO3Rot2Gxc7Hei4nmHil%2B2%2BRWcGxRrhxphBSw%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="nofollow">Historic Fruit Tree Working Group</a>,&nbsp;which connects Colorado researchers with other apple-exploring groups and researchers across North America.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20watering%20sm.jpg?itok=JKzZPSV2" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Mia Williams waters newly planted apple tree"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Mia Williams (left) waters a newly planted apple tree Saturday morning. Williams, who will graduate this summer, is double majoring in ecology and evolutionary biology and environmental studies.</p> </span> </div></div><p>“This project has grown so much since our initial community engaged Apple Blitz in 2018,” says Dunbar-Wallis. “We've tagged over 1,000 trees and created a database, taught multiple course-based undergraduate research experiences at CU and at colleges across Colorado and northern New Mexico, started a data-collection app and interactive map in collaboration with CU computer science capstone students and installed a demonstration orchard in collaboration with 51´ŤĂ˝ Open Space and Mountain Parks.”</p><p>The demonstration orchard, planted two years ago, functions as a teaching and research laboratory to explore how biodiversity affects the functioning of apple orchards and their services to human well-being, including efficient water use, pollinator habitat and structural complexity supporting natural pest control.</p><p><strong>A part of the narrative</strong></p><p>The idea for the 30<span>th</span> Street orchard was revived by a group of six undergraduate and two graduate students almost two years ago, who proposed resubmitting a grant application that hadn’t been accepted in 2019.</p><p>“We’re a group who really love what we do and love apple trees and working with the soil,” says Katie Mikell, an ecology and evolutionary biology student who is graduating today and who was a member of the team that crafted and submitted the grant proposal.</p><p>“Before, (the orchard plot) was a lawn full of monoculture turf grass, so part of our argument was that if we put in an apple orchard, it would create a carbon sink (a system that absorbs more carbon than it releases), it would save the school money and anyone walking by could pick an apple. Plus, once the trees are producing, we can donate apples to the food pantry. Everyone can benefit from an apple orchard.”</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20helpers%20sm.jpg?itok=H21PtnB2" width="1500" height="1094" alt="Deidre Jaeger with her sons Sage and Cedar"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Deidre Jaeger (right, PhDEBio'22) and her sons Sage, 4 (left), and Cedar, 1 (center), plant apple trees at the 30th Street orchard Saturday morning. Jaeger was a postdoctoral researcher in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology and an advisor for the <span>Center for Sustainable Landscapes and Communities and is a researcher with the 51´ŤĂ˝ Apple Tree Project.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>Students prepared the 30<span>th</span> Street site during fall semester, working with departments and organizations across the university, as well as many community partners. The trees planted Saturday are about three years old and were obtained from Widespread Malus and Benevolence Orchard in 51´ŤĂ˝.</p><p>“Our students are at the core of the university, and their passion and ingenuity are critical to our values around infusing sustainability throughout CU 51´ŤĂ˝. This orchard exemplifies that pursuit in so many ways,” says Vice Chancellor for Sustainability Andrew Mayock.</p><p>“It is not only helping to protect biodiversity in our community. It will help feed those in need on our campus and create a living-learning laboratory space where sustainability leaders of the future will learn and develop strategies for urban agriculture planning.”</p><p>Fifteen varieties of apples are represented in the orchard, including locally grown historic cultivars like Wolf River and Colorado Orange. A beloved apple tree on the Bobolink Trail is even represented in a newly planted graft.</p><p>“There’s so much learning that can happen in an orchard,” says Manuela Mejia, an ecology and evolutionary biology PhD student who will conduct her doctoral research, which will include studying insect diversity, at the orchard. “So many facets of science are represented here.”</p><p>In addition to trees, the orchard will include an understory of native, drought-tolerant grasses and pollinator-friendly wildflowers, notes Mia Williams, who is majoring in environmental studies and ecology and evolutionary biology and will graduate this summer.</p><p>“It’s really exciting that this orchard will become a part of the story of agriculture in this area,” Dunbar-Wallis says. “We’ve tagged more than 1,000 trees (through BATP) and some of them are a hundred years old, so you think about everything they’ve seen and been through, the history that they hold, their stories, and now these trees—which are little now and probably won’t produce fruit for two or three years—are part of that narrative.”</p><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20compost%20sm.jpg?itok=R4UnxzZG" width="1500" height="1019" alt="Sophie Small and Amy Dunbar-Wallis putting compost in a wheelbarrow"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Sophie Small (left) and Amy Dunbar-Wallis (right) fill a wheelbarrow with compost Saturday morning to prepare for planting an apple orchard in front of the 30th Street greenhouse. Small, a freshman who is studying biomedical engineering, learned about the project through the CU Farm and Garden Club.&nbsp;</p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20research%20in%20progress%20sm.jpg?itok=LxX-4XnU" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Sophie Small, Isaac Kou and Kyrie MacArthur plant an apple tree"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Sophie Small (left), Isaac Kou (center) and Kyrie MacArthur dig a hole Saturday morning before planting an apple tree in it. Small is studying biomedical engineering, Kou just graduated with a major in computer science and a minor in ecology and evolutionary biology and MacArthur is studying history and education.</p> </span> </div></div><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20Amy%20digging%20sm.jpg?itok=tQ0ItuHR" width="1500" height="2250" alt="Amy Dunbar-Wallis digging hole for an apple tree"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Amy Dunbar-Wallis (PhDEBio'25) digs a hole for a young apple tree Saturday morning.&nbsp;</p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20explaining%20sm.jpg?itok=eC6W2fh3" width="1500" height="2250" alt="Group of people receiving instructions on planting apple orchard"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Amy Dunbar Wallis (left, black vest) educates student and community volunteers Saturday morning before they plant 30 apple trees in front of the 30th Street greenhouse.</p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20blossoms%20sm.jpg?itok=fWLZ5dz3" width="1500" height="2251" alt="apple blossoms"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">The apple trees planted in the 30th Street orchard Saturday morning, one of which even bloomed, are three years old and should begin producing fruit in two or three years.</p> </span> </div></div><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about ecology and evolutionary biology?&nbsp;</em><a href="/ebio/donate" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>Newly planted apple orchard on CU 51´ŤĂ˝ campus is a nexus of university and community partnerships and will be a living classroom for students and educators.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Apple%20orchard%20blossoms%20cropped.jpg?itok=0dhY-HZg" width="1500" height="597" alt="White apple blossoms on thin branch"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Thu, 08 May 2025 17:18:27 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6134 at /asmagazine