Top Stories /asmagazine/ en Initiative gives students a voice with hip-hop /asmagazine/2025/04/10/initiative-gives-students-voice-hip-hop <span>Initiative gives students a voice with hip-hop</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-04-10T09:39:27-06:00" title="Thursday, April 10, 2025 - 09:39">Thu, 04/10/2025 - 09:39</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-04/Hip%20hop.jpg?h=119335f7&amp;itok=T6lrymEV" width="1200" height="800" alt="hip hop performer onstage silhouetted against yellow stage light"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1065" hreflang="en">Center for African &amp; African American Studies</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1240" hreflang="en">Division of Social Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/484" hreflang="en">Ethnic Studies</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1053" hreflang="en">community</a> </div> <span>Cody DeBos</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p><em>Founded by a collaborative including CU 51传媒 scholars, the Lyripeutics Storytelling Project aims to empower Black and Brown youth through the medium of hip-hop</em></p><hr><p>A Manual High School student sits behind a microphone, headphones on. Their world outside鈥攚hich sometimes holds uncertainty, systemic barriers and institutional indifference but also encompasses the rich musical and cultural heritage of Denver鈥檚 Five Points neighborhood鈥攆ades away for a moment as a beat drops. As the student leans in, the cadence of hip-hop becomes an outlet to speak their truth.</p><p>For many Black and Brown youth in the greater Denver area, the <a href="https://outreach.colorado.edu/program/lyripeutics-storytelling-project/" rel="nofollow">Lyripeutics Storytelling Project</a> is more than a way to express their creativity. It鈥檚 survival.</p><p>That鈥檚 why the artists and educators behind the project are battling to keep the space alive.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Shawn%20O%27Neal%20and%20Kalonji%20Nzinga.jpg?itok=0qgUNBRU" width="1500" height="1085" alt="portraits of Shawn O'Neal and Kalonji Nzinga"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Shawn O'Neal (left), an assistant teaching professor of ethnic studies, and Kalonji Nzinga (right), an assistant professor of education, are co-directors of Lyripeutics.</p> </span> </div></div><p>鈥淲e鈥檙e trying to provide these platforms of learning that we think Black and Brown students in particular really resonate with,鈥� says <a href="/lab/rap/people/kalonji-nzinga" rel="nofollow">Kalonji Nzinga</a>, a University of Colorado 51传媒 assistant professor of education and Lyripeutics co-director. 鈥淚n a way, we鈥檙e just building upon the history of creating learning environments based in a cultural reference point, based in our ways of knowing.鈥�</p><p>Through storytelling and music production, young people in the Lyripeutics program gain an opportunity to share stories of their unique cultural wealth. But while the program has been a source of empowerment for many, it also faces funding struggles and systemic resistance.</p><p><strong>What is Lyripeutics?</strong></p><p>Founded by a collective of CU 51传媒 scholars, artists, educators and community organizers, Lyripeutics鈥� mission is to empower Black and Brown youth through a medium many connect with鈥攈ip-hop. The program is embedded in schools in the greater Denver area and aims to offer alternative learning environments for students who find themselves overlooked in traditional education systems.</p><p>鈥淲e don鈥檛 all learn the same, yet we have this system of education that鈥檚 been around for hundreds of years and is really geared for only one very particular type of student,鈥� says <a href="/crowninstitute/shawn-oneal-phd-candidate" rel="nofollow">Shawn O鈥橬eal</a><span>, an assistant teaching professor in the CU 51传媒 </span><a href="/ethnicstudies/" rel="nofollow"><span>Department of Ethnic Studies</span></a><span> and Lyripeutics鈥� founding member and co-director</span>.</p><p>鈥淚t鈥檚 just not working for us. For many students. It hasn鈥檛 worked,鈥� he adds.</p><p>Rather than using the traditional education system鈥檚 philosophy of rigid structure and standardization, the Lyripeutics program operates through collaboration and an evolving process in which students, teachers and artists co-create learning spaces.</p><p>鈥淎 typical day can look quite different depending on whether we have a producer leading the session or a lecturer on hip-hop history, or an actual MC helping create space for youth to do storytelling,鈥� O鈥橬eal says.</p><p>Students can also create and produce their own music in the state-of-the-art hip-hop studio adjacent to the Manual High School library in Denver.</p><p>鈥淲e collaborate with other hip-hop artists across the Denver area to develop the programming and to do the instruction,鈥� Nzinga says.</p><p>At its heart, the program is about creative expression.</p><p>鈥淲e鈥檙e even working with students on exercises like field recordings of their environments and recording their neighborhoods and creating tracks and experiences out of those,鈥� O鈥橬eal adds.</p><p><strong>Building confidence, one verse at a time</strong></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Hip%20hop.jpg?itok=jTgolZuq" width="1500" height="1000" alt="hip hop performer onstage silhouetted against yellow stage light"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Through storytelling and music production, young people in the Lyripeutics program gain an opportunity to share stories of their unique cultural wealth. (Photo: iStock)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>Those behind the Lyripeutics program know education isn鈥檛 just about what happens in the classroom, but what happens when students see their own voices amplified in the real world.</p><p>Recently, one group of high school students visited the CU 51传媒 campus to play original tracks on the university鈥檚 radio station.</p><p>鈥淭he folks who run the radio station were just blown away,鈥� says O鈥橬eal. 鈥淚t was an enriching experience for everyone involved.鈥�</p><p>鈥淲e believe that doing work related to the social context, the cultural movement that is hip-hop, allows young people to really express their story from their perspective,鈥� adds Nzinga.</p><p>For many of the youth involved, the program is much more than an extracurricular activity; for some, it鈥檚 the first time they鈥檝e been given tools, encouragement and a platform to tell their stories, O鈥橬eal says.</p><p>鈥淲hen we get to engage with the students, it鈥檚 normally within a place of creativity and joy. We aren鈥檛 there for a lot of the day-to-day things I know they鈥檙e going through, but we see and hear the expression of their frustrations and the various roadblocks they鈥檙e up against through their music and their performance,鈥� O鈥橬eal says.</p><p><strong>Fighting to keep the mic on</strong></p><p>For all its successes, Lyripeutics faces a current reality: Programs focused on BIPOC youth, particularly those challenging traditional educational models, are under an intense microscope.</p><p>鈥淲e are at this moment receiving so much resistance from multiple levels,鈥� Nzinga says. 鈥淔rom previous and future funding situations to different regulations at the state and district level鈥攊t鈥檚 extremely frustrating.鈥�</p><p>Despite widespread recognition of the program鈥檚 impact, Nzinga and his colleagues cite an uphill battle to secure funding. While institutions like <a href="/crowninstitute/home" rel="nofollow">CU 51传媒鈥檚 Ren茅e Crown Wellness Institute</a> have provided crucial support, securing consistent financial backing remains a struggle.</p><p>But the pushback isn鈥檛 just about money. Nzinga and O鈥橬eal attribute much of the resistance to a larger national trend of rolling back diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, making it harder for programs like Lyripeutics to operate freely.</p><p>鈥淲e claim we want this type of programming for students that they need, yet we have to fight tooth and nail just to get a dollar, when we see so much money funneled into things that seem to be the antithesis of community building,鈥� O鈥橬eal observes.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><blockquote><p class="lead"><span>鈥淲e believe that doing work related to the social context, the cultural movement that is hip-hop, allows young people to really express their story from their perspective.鈥�</span></p></blockquote></div></div><p>The most devastating consequence? Students who should be at the center of the conversation lose access to much-needed programming, and their voices are silenced鈥攕ometimes literally. Despite receiving parental consent, Lyripeutics has faced institutional roadblocks when trying to bring student voices into larger discussions about the program鈥檚 success.</p><p>鈥淲e would really prefer to have those students speaking for themselves,鈥� O鈥橬eal says, 鈥淏ut we鈥檙e not even at liberty to say many of the things we want to say.鈥�</p><p>O鈥橬eal and Nzinga also know Lyripeutics isn鈥檛 the only program fighting this battle. It鈥檚 part of a system of community-led education that refuses to be erased.</p><p>Nzinga says, 鈥淥ur program isn鈥檛 the only one facing these types of pushback.鈥�</p><p>鈥淎 lot of times these resistance movements try to separate us. They make us feel like we鈥檙e alone in doing this work, but we aren鈥檛,鈥� he adds.</p><p>When asked how outsiders can support the Lyripeutics program, Nzinga and O鈥橬eal didn鈥檛 point to a single solution. They emphasized the importance of solidarity, awareness and amplifying voices.</p><p>鈥淚 think parents and community leaders voicing their opinions about any of the positive effects our programming has had would help,鈥� O鈥橬eal says.</p><p>The road ahead isn鈥檛 easy. Yet, despite the challenges, Lyripeutics will be there to keep a beat playing and a mic on for its students, ensuring the next generation of storytellers and leaders will have their voices heard.&nbsp;</p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about ethnic studies?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://giving.cu.edu/fund/ethnic-studies-general-gift-fund" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>Founded by a collaborative including CU 51传媒 scholars, the Lyripeutics Storytelling Project aims to empower Black and Brown youth through the medium of hip-hop.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Lyripeutics%20logo%20teal%20cropped.jpg?itok=qgo4OuAH" width="1500" height="457" alt="Lyripeutics logo"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Thu, 10 Apr 2025 15:39:27 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6102 at /asmagazine Tales as old as time 鈥� yet we still love them /asmagazine/2025/04/04/tales-old-time-yet-we-still-love-them <span>Tales as old as time 鈥� yet we still love them</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-04-04T09:36:10-06:00" title="Friday, April 4, 2025 - 09:36">Fri, 04/04/2025 - 09:36</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-04/Evil%20queen%20mirror.jpg?h=8226ba79&amp;itok=hFqosOUU" width="1200" height="800" alt="Evil queen speaking to magic mirror in movie Snow White"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/326" hreflang="en">French and Italian</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/504" hreflang="en">Libraries</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/686" hreflang="en">Research</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/710" hreflang="en">students</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/rachel-sauer">Rachel Sauer</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>With yet another Snow White adaptation currently in theaters, CU 51传媒 scholar Suzanne Magnanini reflects on the enduring appeal of fairy tales</em></p><hr><p>Once upon a time鈥�<em>this</em> time, in fact, and many of the ones that came before it鈥攖here was a story that never grew dull in its telling.</p><p>It possibly leaped the porous cultural and national borders of narrative, carried by caravans or ships or ethernet cables and planted in the ready imaginations of successive generations of story lovers鈥攖hose who tell them and those who hear them.</p><p>Maybe it鈥檚 the story of a young person who ventures into the unknown, where they encounter magic and beasts of all sizes and a resolution specific to the tale鈥檚 time and place. Maybe there really even are fairies involved.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Suzanne%20Magnanini.jpg?itok=Qn0y-03p" width="1500" height="1082" alt="headshot of Suzanne Magnanini"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Suzanne Magnanini, <span>a CU 51传媒 associate professor of Italian and chair of the Department of French and Italian, notes that fairy tales' malleability helps them remain fresh and relevant over centuries of retellings.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>And we never seem to tire of hearing about them.</p><p>The recent theatrical release of Disney鈥檚 live-action <em>Snow White</em>鈥攐ne of countless retellings of the tale over more than 400 years鈥攈ighlights the place of honor that fairy tales occupy in cultures around the world and in the hearts of people hearing them for the first time or the thousandth.</p><p>One of the reasons they remain fresh through countless years and iterations is their malleability, says <a href="/frenchitalian/suzanne-magnanini" rel="nofollow">Suzanne Magnanini</a>, a University of Colorado 51传媒 associate professor of Italian and chair of the <a href="/frenchitalian/" rel="nofollow">Department of French and Italian</a>. 鈥淭he Italian author Italo Calvino, who also edited a seminal collection of Italian folktales, writes of fairy tales as being like a stone fruit, where you have that hard core center that is always the same鈥攜ou鈥檒l usually recognize a Sleeping Beauty story, for example鈥攂ut the fruit can be radically different around that.鈥�</p><p><strong>Stories of time and place</strong></p><p>As a researcher, Magnanini has published broadly on fairy tales, including her 2008 book <em>Fairy-Tale Science:&nbsp;Monstrous Generation in the Fairy Tales of Straparola and Basile.&nbsp;</em>She began studying fairy tales while working on her PhD, finding in them a fascinating dovetailing between her interests in monstrosity and otherness.</p><p>鈥淎s a scholar, I take what鈥檚 called a social-historical approach,鈥� she explains. 鈥淚鈥檓 really interested in all those little details that link a tale to a very precise place in time where it was told, and I鈥檝e written about the ways in which fairy tales are used to elaborate on and think about scientific theories of reproduction that hadn鈥檛 really been nailed down at the time鈥攓uestions that were still being circulated about whether humans could interbreed with animals, for example, and would that produce a monstrous child?</p><p>鈥淵ou look at a some variations of Beauty and the Beast, like Giovan Francesco Straparola鈥檚 story of a pig king, where it鈥檚 a magical version of these questions, and maybe what鈥檚 actually happening is that fairy tales are a way to think through the anxieties and interests of the time.鈥�</p><div class="ucb-box ucb-box-title-left ucb-box-alignment-left ucb-box-style-fill ucb-box-theme-lightgray"><div class="ucb-box-inner"><div class="ucb-box-title">Fairy Tales at CU 51传媒</div><div class="ucb-box-content"><p>The ATU Index is one of the search elements that Suzanne Magnanini and her students are including as they develop the database for <a href="/projects/fairy-tales/" rel="nofollow">Fairy Tales at CU 51传媒</a>. The project aims, in part, to improve access and searchability of the more than 2,000 fairy tale collections that are part of the Rare Books Collection at Norlin Library.</p><p>The project is a partnership between undergraduates and graduate students under the direction of Magnanini and <a href="https://libraries.colorado.edu/sean-babbs" rel="nofollow">Sean Babbs</a>, instruction coordinator for the University Libraries' Rare and Distinctive Collections, as well as <a href="/cuartmuseum/about/staff/hope-saska" rel="nofollow">Hope Saska</a>, CU Art Museum acting director and chief curator, who has trained students in visual-thinking strategies. The project is supported by <a href="/urop/" rel="nofollow">Undergraduate Research Opportunities Program,</a> the <a href="/assett/innovation-incubator" rel="nofollow">ASSETT Innovation Incubator</a>, the <a href="https://www.cu.edu/ptsp" rel="nofollow">President鈥檚 Teaching Scholars Program</a> and the <a href="https://libraries.colorado.edu/" rel="nofollow">University Libraries</a>.</p><p>Fairy Tales at CU 51传媒 will host a showcase of CU's fairy tale collection from 3:30 to 4:45 p.m. April 16 in Norlin Library M350B. <a href="/asmagazine/media/8529" rel="nofollow">Learn more here.</a></p></div></div></div><p>Though fairy tales may be spun in response to what鈥檚 happening in a specific time and place, they also often address concerns that aren鈥檛 specific to one location or culture but are broadly pondered across humanity. 鈥淎ndrew Teverson has written that fairy tales are literature鈥檚 migrants because they can move across borders, they can move across boundaries and then make themselves at home and assimilate to a certain extent in different cultures,鈥� Magnanini says.</p><p>For example, the Brothers Grimm heard a tale called 鈥淪neewittchen鈥� (Snow White) from folklorist <a href="https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html" rel="nofollow">Marie Hassenpflug</a>, as well as from other sources, and included it as tale No. 53 in their seminal 1812 <em>Grimm鈥檚 Fairy Tales</em>. However, says Magnanini, there was a similar tale called 鈥淭he Young Slave鈥� in Giambattista Basile鈥檚 1634 work <em>Pentamerone</em>. In fact, Snow White is type 709 in the <a href="https://guides.library.harvard.edu/folk_and_myth/indices" rel="nofollow">Aarne鈥揟hompson鈥揢ther Index</a> (ATU Index), which catalogs and describes common motifs and themes in fairy tales and folklore around the world.</p><p><strong>Not so happily ever after</strong></p><p>The origins of many fairy tales can be traced as far back as ancient Greece, Rome and China, Magnanini says, which speaks to their ability not only to help people of particular times and places explore their anxieties and questions, but to address the feelings that have been central to the human condition almost since our species emerged from caves.</p><p>鈥淲hen I think about fairy tales, I think about number of characteristics that make them really appealing across time and space,鈥� Magnanini says. 鈥淚f you think about it, the protagonists are almost always young people heading out into the world鈥攎uch like our students are heading out鈥攍eaving home behind, having to make their way in world, facing challenges. That experience can be very transformational, so in a way these stories are all about metamorphosis and change.</p><p>鈥淎 lot of times that鈥檚 when you鈥檙e living your life in Technicolor and all the emotions are new. So, even if you鈥檙e no longer in that moment of life, fairy tales tap into experiences like the first falling in love, the first adventure from home. And they often end right after the wedding, so you don鈥檛 see someone having to do their taxes or being like, 鈥極h, my god, I鈥檝e been in this relationship for 30 years and I鈥檓 bored.鈥� I think part of the reason we don鈥檛 get tired of fairy tales is because they capture this fleeting time in life.鈥�</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Snow%20White%20in%20forest.jpg?itok=zwJJDOSg" width="1500" height="971" alt="Actress Rachel Zeigler in forest scene from movie Snow White"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>鈥淚f you think about it, the (fairy tale) protagonists are almost always young people heading out into the world鈥攎uch like our students are heading out鈥攍eaving home behind, having to make their way in world, facing challenges," says CU 51传媒 scholar Suzanne Magnanini. (Photo: Disney Studios)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>While fairy tales, particularly as they鈥檝e been interpreted and simplified by Disney, are stereotyped as having 鈥渁nd they lived happily ever after鈥� endings, fairy tales pre-Disney more commonly ended with justice served, Magnanini says. For example, the version of 鈥淪now White鈥� in the 1812 <em>Grimm鈥檚 Fairy Tales</em> ends with the evil queen being forced to step into a pair of red-hot iron shoes and dance until she dies.</p><p>鈥淎 lot of people will say, 鈥極h, it鈥檚 the happy ending that鈥檚 the appeal of fairy tales,鈥� but it鈥檚 important to remember the vast majority of fairy tales end with the deliverance of justice鈥攕omething really unjust has happened, someone has been discriminated against, there鈥檚 some evil in the world, and justice is delivered,鈥� Magnanini explains. 鈥淧eople who study the formal aspects of fairy tales always talk about how the 鈥榟appy ending鈥� is found in justice.</p><p>鈥淒isney Studios has a tendency to remove the ambiguity from these tales and remove most of the violence鈥攕implifying them in a lot of ways. If you read the French version of Beauty and the Beast, Charles Perrault鈥檚 version, there were other siblings in there; there was a complex family structure with complex interactions and a lot of really heavy issues鈥攖he family must deal with economic disaster.鈥�</p><p>In fact, the field of fairy tale scholarship addresses everything from feminist interpretations of the stories to the ways in which children use fairy tales to help navigate psychosexual rites of passage. Generations of authors have told and continue to retell these familiar stories through different lenses of gender, sexuality, geography, racial identity, economic status and many, many others.</p><p><span>鈥淲hat makes these stories different, and what I think is a big part of the appeal of fairy tales, is the magic or the marvel,鈥� Magnanini says. 鈥淔or it to be a fairy tale, scholars would say there has to be magic in there鈥攏ot just the presence of magic, but magic that facilitates the happy ending by allowing the protagonist to overcome whatever obstacles are in the way of what they desire, maybe the marriage, the wealth, the happy ending. There鈥檚 something so satisfying about that, because it doesn鈥檛 happen in your quotidian day-to-day life. I mean, imagine if you met a talking deer.鈥�&nbsp;</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about French and Italian?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://giving.cu.edu/fund/french-and-italian-department" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>With yet another Snow White adaptation currently in theaters, CU 51传媒 scholar Suzanne Magnanini reflects on the enduring appeal of fairy tales.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Snow%20White%20with%20apple.jpg?itok=sqO9UjMg" width="1500" height="629" alt="Evil queen handing Snow White an apple in movie Snow White"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top image: Disney Studios</div> Fri, 04 Apr 2025 15:36:10 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6097 at /asmagazine That iconic flag-raising on Iwo Jima? CU prof, then a Marine, saw it happen /asmagazine/2025/02/21/iconic-flag-raising-iwo-jima-cu-prof-then-marine-saw-it-happen <span>That iconic flag-raising on Iwo Jima? CU prof, then a Marine, saw it happen</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-02-21T07:30:00-07:00" title="Friday, February 21, 2025 - 07:30">Fri, 02/21/2025 - 07:30</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-02/Flag%20on%20Mount%20Suribachi.jpg?h=a3bf7d6d&amp;itok=B_936zlB" width="1200" height="800" alt="Marines raising U.S. flag on Iwo Jima"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1179" hreflang="en">Behavioral Science</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/857" hreflang="en">Faculty</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/388" hreflang="en">Institute of Behavioral Science</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/917" hreflang="en">Top Stories</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/bradley-worrell">Bradley Worrell</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>CU 51传媒 distinguished professor and Marine veteran Richard Jessor reflects on what the planting of the U.S. flag on Mount Suribachi Feb. 23, 1945, meant for the country and for him personally</span></em></p><hr><p><span>Eighty years later, Richard Jessor vividly recalls hitting the beach on Iwo Jima on Feb. 19, 1945.</span></p><p><span>鈥淭he island had been under severe bombardment from U.S. aircraft and our Navy ships offshore,鈥� says Jessor. 鈥淏oth types of bombardment had been going on for quite some time, and the sense was that Iwo Jima could be taken in three or four days because nothing could have survived such a massive bombardment from American forces.鈥�</span></p><p><span>The first three waves of Marines landed on the beach without taking enemy fire.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-02/Richard%20Jessor%20current%20and%20Marine.jpg?itok=JTFQRt2s" width="1500" height="1094" alt="2023 and 1945 portraits of Richard Jessor"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Richard Jessor, a CU 51传媒 distinguished professor emeritus of behavioral science, was a 20-year-old Marine fighting World War II on Iwo Jima in February 1945.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>鈥淏y the time we in the fourth wave hit the beach, the Japanese鈥攚ho were concealed, waiting for us鈥攑ulled their artillery out of the caves and had every inch of the beach registered, so when our tractor hit the beach, we were under severe fire,鈥� recalls Jessor, then a 20-year-old Marine. 鈥淥ur tractor got stuck at the beach edge and could not move us up, so we jumped out of the tractor into the water.</span></p><p><span>鈥淎s I hit the beach, I looked over and there was a Marine lying on his back, a bubble of blood coming out of his mouth. He died there, and that was my first exposure to combat.鈥�</span></p><p><span>Jessor was hit in the back by shrapnel during the first day ashore but was able to continue fighting. After four days of fighting, he and his company were pulled back from the front line and told they could write one letter.</span></p><p><span>He wrote a letter to his parents, thanking them for everything they had done for him. He also said his goodbyes, 鈥渂ecause I didn鈥檛 think anyone was going to get off the island alive,鈥� he says, explaining, 鈥渢here was carnage all of the time, every day, and you felt every day that it was going to be your last day.</span></p><p><span>鈥淲e were constantly being fired upon by the Japanese, who would come to the openings of their caves and fire, and then withdraw, so we didn鈥檛 see the enemy, and that was a huge source of frustration,鈥� he adds. As it turned out, the Japanese had heavily fortified the island and had a dense network of tunnels from which they could launch attacks.</span></p><p><span><strong>The flag raised atop Mount Suribachi</strong></span></p><p><span>Back on the line the morning of the fifth day, Jessor looked at the opposite end of the island to see something in the distance atop Mount Suribachi, the dominant geographical feature on Iwo Jima.</span></p><p><span>鈥淎s I looked, I suddenly saw the American flag flying. I couldn鈥檛 see anything else that was that far away, but I saw the flag flying and I started shouting, 鈥楾he flag is up! The flag is up!鈥欌€� he says. 鈥淭he other Marines around me began turning around to look. Seeing that made us realize that our rear was now being covered, because we had been under attack from behind as well as in front.</span></p><p><span>鈥淔or me, it was a moment of being able to say to myself, 鈥楳aybe I will get out of this alive,鈥欌€� he adds. 鈥淚n that sense, it was transformative for me, and I remember it well.鈥�</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-02/Dick%20Jessor%20Marine.jpg?itok=tBBBJy2I" width="1500" height="1136" alt="Richard Jessor and fellow U.S. Marines during World War II"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Richard Jessor (second from right) and his buddies taking a break behind the line while serving in World War II. (Photo: Richard Jessor)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>The flag raising lifted the spirits of the Marines on the island, and later it did the same for a war-weary American public at home, when the image of Marines raising the flag was captured by Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal. Rosenthal won the 1945 Pulitzer Prize for photography, and the photo is one of the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima" rel="nofollow"><span>most recognizable images of World War II.</span></a></p><p><span>Jessor says the photo symbolized the Marines鈥� perseverance in the face of one of the bloodiest battles of the war, and it helped shape the public鈥檚 sentiment that victory in the Pacific was at hand. However, it also may have inadvertently created a false impression among the public, he says.</span></p><p><span>鈥淪ome people may think that when the flag went up the island was secure鈥攁nd that was absolutely not the case,鈥� Jessor explains. 鈥淲hen the flag went up, on day five, we still had 31 more days of fighting鈥攁nd most of the casualties took place after the flag raising. Close to 7,000 Marines were killed in the 36-day battle.鈥�</span></p><p><span>Meanwhile, as the Marines advanced, they sometimes came across the bodies of dead Japanese soldiers, whom they searched for souvenirs. Marines were particularly interested in Japanese 鈥済ood luck flags,鈥� which bore well wishes from friends and family and which were often tied around soldier鈥檚 waist.</span></p><p><span>鈥淥ne morning, when I looked out my foxhole, I saw a dead Japanese soldier. I walked over to him to see whether he had a flag under his shirt, and as I bent over, I saw he had letters in his shirt pocket,鈥� presumably from his family, he says. 鈥淲ell, I had letters from family in</span><em><span> my&nbsp;</span></em><span>pocket</span><em><span>鈥�</span></em><span>and suddenly I was struck by the fact that in so many ways we shared the same humanity. I couldn鈥檛 blame him any more than I could blame myself for being in the same situation. It gave me pause about how stupid it was to be engaged in this kind of activity (war).鈥�</span></p><p><span><strong>An epiphany amidst combat</strong></span></p><p><span>Jessor called that moment an epiphany. He made two vows then and there: that he would never go to war again and that he would go on to do something meaningful with his life.</span></p><p><span>First, though, he had to get off the island alive.</span></p><p><span>His next challenge came a few days later, when he was ordered to take a Japanese soldier captured at the front lines under his guard to the beach, where interpreters could question the prisoner about the placement of weapons facing the Marines.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-02/Dick%20Jessor%20Japanese%20flag.jpg?itok=Ncn_IVQX" width="1500" height="1189" alt="U.S. Marines posing with Japanese good luck flag during battle of Iwo Jima"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Richard Jessor (holding the Japanese "good luck flag") and buddies from the 4th Marine Division during the battle of Iwo Jima. (Photo: Richard Jessor)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>鈥淎s I said, there was a great deal of frustration that we could not see the enemy we were fighting, so I anticipated there could be some attempts on my prisoner as I started walking him back through the rear lines,鈥� Jessor recalls. 鈥淎s we got through the rear of the lines, where our artillery was, a Marine jumped up, running toward me and my prisoner, saying, 鈥業鈥檓 going to kill that son-of-a-bitch.鈥�</span></p><p><span>鈥淚 had to point my rifle at his head and say, 鈥業 have orders to shoot anybody who touches my prisoner,鈥� and so he stopped and finally backed off. And the same thing happened a second time before I got the prisoner to the beach and turned him over to command headquarters,鈥� he says.</span></p><p><span>鈥淎s I鈥檝e ruminated these 80 years, I鈥檓 not sure whether I would have shot that fellow Marine if he had not desisted from his threat, and it worries me that I might have done that.鈥�</span></p><p><span><strong>Finally, the objective is achieved</strong></span></p><p><span>After 36 days, the Marines secured Iwo Jima. A short time later, U.S. aircraft were able to use its runway, which鈥攃ombined with the island鈥檚 proximity to the Japanese mainland鈥攎ade it a strategic military objective.</span></p><p><span>鈥淐apturing Iwo Jima had immediate consequences for the approach to Japan,鈥� Jessor says. 鈥淲hat was happening was that our bombers were leaving from Saipan or Tinian, and some of those bombers would get hit over Japan and not be able to make it back, so they would have to ditch in the sea, and many were lost. So, the fact Iwo Jima had a landing strip on it was important for that reason, as well as serving as a base for the projected attack on Tokyo.鈥�</span></p><p><span>But the victory came at a tremendous cost to the Marines.</span></p><p><span>鈥淲e were destroyed. As I said, almost 7,000 Marines were killed on that island,鈥� Jessor says. The scale of the loss was on display when Jessor and fellow Marines retraced their steps to the landing beach, which was arrayed with crosses where Marines were temporarily buried after falling in combat.</span></p><p><span>The Marines were shipped back to their training grounds in Maui for their next mission鈥攖he planned invasion of Japan.</span></p><p><span>They spent their days practicing landing craft invasions. At night, Jessor says he and a few of his fellow Iwo Jima veterans would gather in their tent to relive details of the battle, which he believes had a cathartic effect.</span></p><p><span>Jessor also recalls being on Maui when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.</span></p><p><span>鈥淲hen the bomb dropped, we all thought it was a great thing,鈥� he recalls. 鈥淲e were saying to each other, 鈥楴o more war! We get to go home!鈥欌€�</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-02/Jessor%20WWII%20mementos.jpg?itok=NeYci3In" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Iwo Jima mementos including bottle of sand, photos and Japanese grenade"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Among Richard Jessor's mementos from Iwo Jima are <span>a deactivated Japanese hand grenade he took home from the battle and a jar containing black sand from the beach where he landed. (Photo: Glenn Asakawa/CU 51传媒)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>However, in retrospect, as the scale of the death and destruction in those cities became known, Jessor says he reevaluated his opinion about that fateful decision. At the same time, Jessor says he developed a deep disdain for politicians who were so easily willing to put American troops in combat.</span></p><p><span>鈥淭hey talk about it like it鈥檚 a game,鈥� he says. 鈥淭hey haven鈥檛 the slightest sense of what combat is like and what it does to people and the destruction it causes. Even for the many people who survive the experience, their lives are changed forever.鈥�</span></p><p><span><strong>After the war</strong></span></p><p><span>After he was discharged, Jessor made good on his promise to himself to make a difference for the better. After earning his doctorate, in 1951 he accepted a position as an assistant professor of psychology at CU 51传媒.</span></p><p><span>During his ensuing 70 years at CU 51传媒, he co-founded and later directed the </span><a href="https://ibs.colorado.edu/" rel="nofollow"><span>Institute of Behavioral Science</span></a><span> (its building was recently renamed in his honor); wrote </span><a href="https://www.cu.edu/doc/1970-report-equality-ed-opportunitypdf" rel="nofollow"><span>an influential report</span></a><span> in January 1970 critiquing the lack of diversity on campus and making suggestions for positive changes; wrote a report in the 1960s that took the CU Board of Regents to task for being unresponsive to students and faculty, which earned him the ire of former Regent Joe Coors; and wrote 10 books. He retired as a distinguished professor in 2021, which makes him the university鈥檚 longest-serving professor.</span></p><p><span>Like many World War II veterans, Jessor rarely spoke of his experiences during the war, even to close friends and his own family. That changed for him after he saw the</span><em><span>&nbsp;</span></em><span>World War II movie</span><em><span>&nbsp;</span></em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan" rel="nofollow"><em><span>Saving Private Ryan</span></em></a><em><span>,&nbsp;</span></em><span>which opens with a scene of American soldiers storming the beaches of Normandy, France, under intense fire from German soldiers.</span></p><p><span>鈥淎s a trained clinical psychologist, I didn鈥檛 want to share my experiences with others, so I didn鈥檛 talk much about having been a Marine,鈥� he says. 鈥淎nd then one day, my wife, Jane, and I were in Aspen. It was raining, so we couldn鈥檛 go hiking, so instead we went to the movies and saw </span><em><span>Saving Private Ryan.</span></em></p><p><span>鈥淭he Steven Spielberg-directed movie was the real thing,鈥� he says. 鈥淲hen the invasion scenes start at the beginning, I was sobbing, and the tears were running down my face. And while that was happening, I鈥檓 saying to myself, 鈥榊ou鈥檙e a psychologist and you didn鈥檛 know that you still had this inside you?鈥� And obviously, I didn鈥檛.</span></p><p><span>鈥淭he movie brought it all back to me, and so I began talking about it from that point on.鈥�</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><blockquote><p class="lead"><span>鈥淚 don鈥檛 ever want to forget that experience, because it strengthened me in many ways. Sometimes I would say to myself, 鈥業f I can get through Iwo Jima, I can get through anything.鈥� But in other ways, it reminds me what war is all about and what has to be done so they don鈥檛 happen anymore.鈥�</span></p></blockquote></div></div><p><span>Jessor had hoped to return to Iwo Jima last year. The&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.nationalww2museum.org/" rel="nofollow"><span>National World War II Museum</span></a><span> in New Orleans offered to cover all expenses for him and his wife to attend a Pacific war theater travel lecture tour series it offers to patrons, which was to include a visit to Iwo Jima. However, the island is open to visitors only one day a year, and volcanic activity on the island at the time resulted in the tour being cancelled. Noting his age鈥攈e is 100鈥擩essor says he鈥檚 unsure he will ever have the opportunity to return to the island, despite his strong desire to do so.</span></p><p><span><strong>Reflecting on the past</strong></span></p><p><span>These days, Jessor keeps some mementos on his work desk to remind him of his time on Iwo Jima: a deactivated Japanese hand grenade he took home from the battle and a jar containing black sand from the beach where he landed. The jar of sand was given to him by a friend who visited the island in 2002.</span></p><p><span>鈥淪ometimes I鈥檓 barely aware they are there, and then other times I鈥檒l look over and see the grenade or the vial of sand and it all comes back to me. It鈥檚 a reminder that I value a great deal,鈥� he says.</span></p><p><span>鈥淚 don鈥檛 ever want to forget that experience, because it strengthened me in many ways. Sometimes I would say to myself, 鈥業f I can get through Iwo Jima, I can get through anything.鈥� But in other ways, it reminds me what war is all about and what has to be done so they don鈥檛 happen anymore.鈥�</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about behavioral science? </em><a href="https://giving.cu.edu/fund/institute-behavioral-science-general-fund" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>CU 51传媒 distinguished professor and Marine veteran Richard Jessor reflects on what the planting of the U.S. flag on Mount Suribachi Feb. 23, 1945, meant for the country and for him personally.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-02/Mount%20Suribachi%20flag.jpg?itok=ESjoCpz8" width="1500" height="634" alt="Marines raise U.S. flag on Iwo Jima during World War II"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top photo: Joe Rosenthal/Associated Press</div> Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:30:00 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6073 at /asmagazine